Thomas: You know, what is secular? Music is music. So if there’s secular music, there’s something called Christian music? Music is math, it’s notes, it’s sounds and silences and rhythm and beat. One isn’t secular, one is Christian, so I’m not quite sure what people mean when
They talk about secular music versus — if you mean modern contemporary, the top 15, 20 songs — I was at an event recently and somebody read out the top 20 songs of today, of this past few weeks, and I’ve never heard of any of them or the singers.
I was completely in the dark. But what do you mean by secular music? Music is music. So, if we have a — Mike, you’re the theologian here. If we have a doctrine of common grace — this is a Dutch thing. You would know all about this. Godfrey: Yeah.
I suspect there are several things hiding in this question. One would be that the question’s probably not just about music, but about words. So that that adds a significant dimension. Then you don’t just have sounds but you have meanings.
And, then I think also the whole question, “Are there styles of music that are, in one way or another, inimicable to Christian piety or practice. That’s a question for you. But, you know, some of us like opera.
I won’t, you know, get into who that might be, but those of us who might like opera would not think that we ought to have opera in the church service. So you can think of a kind of music that you enjoy that you would still say is inappropriate for the worshiping community.
Horton: Yeah, I think, when it comes to style, one of the big questions is, “Is this helping the Word of Christ dwell in us richly? And is the music what we’re thinking about or is the Word of Christ what we’re thinking about?”
And music can be very powerful, as Calvin realized over Zwingli, very powerful in a good way for instilling the Word of Christ. But when it comes to common grace, I agree with you, Derek. There is no Christian music or secular music.
Some of the Christian music out there is just as bad as some of the secular music out there, so we just have to have discretion whatever we’re listening to. Thomas: This is, you know, this is a sensitive question for me.
So, my first memory, you know, it’s one of my first memories, is as a two-year-old sitting on my grandfather’s knee — he died when I was five — sitting on my grandfather’s knee, listening to Pacini’s ‘Laboum,’ and it’s a vivid memory in my head, and
It instilled in me from that moment onwards, just a passionate love for classical music and opera. So he died and he left all of his records, and he had about 500 LPs, and he was very discerning, and he only bought the sort of best, and so he left them to me.
So the week before he died, I’m five years old, he brings me into his bedroom, he died at home, he died of cancer, he was ill for a year or so. And, he told me, “I’m leaving you” — because there were four children.
He could already discern — and my younger brother was three, my older brother was seven, no, nine, and my sister was seven — but he could already discern which of these four would take care of his records.
And, he decided it was me, and I actually didn’t inherit them until I was 15, and when I did, I loved them. I treasured them. I played them on an old gramophone record that you had to lift up the lid, you know,
And it was wider than the player, so you couldn’t put the lid down while it was still playing and there was one little, tiny mono speaker, but it was the state of the art. It was cutting edge, and this was in the ‘60s. And then — Godfrey: Did you have to crank it?
Thomas (Continued): No. We had electricity, but, just about. But I’m saved when I’m 18 and within probably a couple of months of being saved, I meet this guy. He came into my life for maybe six months and then disappeared, and I don’t know what
Happened to him, but he mentored me for six months and he told me I needed to get rid of all my records. So, the next day, I took them to the market, and sold them all for like five dollars. And, it’s probably one of the decisions I most regret in life.
Now, what he should have said to me was, “Put them away for six months to a year and then come back, and maybe they won’t occupy quite the place in your life that they did at that time.”
Because it was a question of priority, but for him, it was a question of this is secular and this is Christian, and you need to get rid of this secular part. So that — I think that’s why I respond fairly emotionally to it. Now, the words issue, I think I’m with you.
When I heard the top 15 or 20 songs that are playing right now, and I heard some of the lyrics, because it was an address to college students, and he was making a point about how every single lyric was about sex in some form or another.
I think I’m with you from what you said this morning about not going to the movies. So we don’t listen to modern music either. That’s you and me. Godfrey: And if we listen to — the first opera I went to I was an 8th grader.
I’d never been to the opera, I didn’t know anything about classical music particularly. And I went to the opera with my mother, my father didn’t want to go in San Francisco, and heard Tosca sung by Richard Tucker, who was the reigning tenor of his day, and I fell
In love with the opera that night as an 8th grader, because it was so glorious and beautiful. But — Response, Thomas: Of course, the lyrics aren’t any better, but they’re in German or Italian so — Godfrey (Continued): That’s the point I was going to make. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I saw a cartoon in the New Yorker recently that said, you know, all of these opera plots really need to be sent to a therapist, and there’s a lot to be said for that. Thomas: Like country music. Godfrey: Like country music.
Nichols: You know, we’re spending a lot of time on this question but I think it’s an important one. As I think about this question, I think it’s the broader — maybe behind it is the broader question of the Christian’s relationship to culture.
We think of music as a particular way maybe to get at our entertainment or what we hear or listen to. We’re not left without a guide. Certainly, as we think about what it means to be a Christian, how we live in the world, we have certainly biblical principles to guide us.
We think about Paul speaking of whatever is excellent, whatever has virtue. We should be thinking on these things. But here’s something I think is especially true of us as Americans. We tend to think about these kind of decisions in ethical categories only without thinking in terms of aesthetic categories.
So, we think of truth and goodness and justice. We tend to do that pretty well. We don’t always think of the beautiful and how we spend our leisure time honoring God, honoring the Creator of beauty, in terms of thinking about aesthetics.
Whether it’s what we listen to or read or watch, to think of those categories, and maybe that can help us as Christians, and we think about these things that we devote our time and our energy to, and our leisure time.
AS A YOUNG GIRL GRACE WILLIAMS HAD A DESTINY VISION FROM GOD. SHE SAW MUSICAL NOTES LITERALLY ENCIRCLING THE EARTH NOW GRACE IS RELEASING THE SOUND OF HEAVEN AROUND THE WORLD THROUGH THE MUSIC GOD GIVES HER, BRINGING SUPERNATURAL HEALING AND DELIVERANCE TO PEOPLE. DO ANGELS EXIST? ARE HEALIING MIRACLES REAL?
IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH? CAN PEOPLE GET SUPERNATURAL HELP FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION? HAS THE FUTURE BEEN WRITTEN IN ADVANCE? SID ROTH HAS SPENT TWENTY-FIVE YEARS RESEARCHING THE STRANGE WORLD OF THE SUPERNATURAL. JOIN SID ON THIS EDITION OF, “IT’S SUPERNATURAL.” HELLO, SID ROTH HERE, WELCOME TO MY WORLD WHERE IT IS NATURALLY SUPERNATURAL.
I WOULDN’T WANT TO BE ANYWHERE ELSE AND THE OXYGEN HERE ISN’T OXYGEN, IT IS FROM THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IT IS SUCH A WONDERFUL ATMOSPHERE BECAUSE WE HAD GRACE WILLIAMS REHEARSING. I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. I HAVE HER CD HERE “FIRE FALL, I HAVE NEVER HEARD MUSIC THAT BRINGS SUCH AN
ABUNDANCE OF THE ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN AND WHAT I CALL SUPERNATURAL PEACE, I ALSO HAVE GRACE’S MOTHER GERRI HERE, AND GRACE I HAVE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, DO MANY PEOPLE TELL YOU WHAT I’VE JUST SAID ABOUT THAT PEACE? YES, THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY THINGS WE
HEAR, OVERWHELMING PEACE, PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING THROUGH THE NIGHT, PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING JUST DEEP COMFORT, HEALING, A LOT OF INNER HEALING, DELIVERANCE FROM REALLY ABUSIVE THINGS AND SOUL ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HURTING IN THEIR SOUL, THIS CD HAS HEALED THEM IN THE DEEPEST PARTS OF THEIR SOUL.
YOU KNOW GERRI, WHAT I FIND IS THE DEVIL, I BELIEVE, HAS INSIGHT OF SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT IN A BABY’S LIFE, AND MANY THAT ARE CALLED TO HAVE VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT ROLES IN THE KINGDOM THE DEVIL TRIES TO SNUFF THEIR LIFE OUT AND THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED WITH GRACE, TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
YES, GRACE WAS BORN PREMATURE AND SHE HAD WATER ON HER LUNGS. ISN’T IT INTERESTING SHE USES HER LUNGS FOR SINGING AND THAT’S WHERE SHE WAS ATTACKED. YES, TOTALLY ATTACKED IN HER LUNGS, HER LITTLE CHEST WOULD CONCAVE TWO OR THREE INCHES JUST GASPING FOR BREATH,
AND AFTER SHE WAS BORN MY HUSBAND WENT DOWN TO THE NURSERY TO SEE OUR NEW LITTLE BABY GIRL BUT HER BED WAS EMPTY, SHE WASN’T THERE AND THE NURSE SAID THE DOCTORS NEED TO TALK TO YOU, AND SHE WAS HAVING TROUBLE BREATHING. SO THEY PUT HER IN INTENSIVE CARE AND IT WAS
A FIGHT FOR HER LIFE, EVERY HOUR THEY WOULD CHECK HER BLOOD TO SEE IF SHE HAD ENOUGH OXYGEN AND SHE WASN’T GETTING ENOUGH OXYGEN SO EVERY HOUR HER BODY WAS LOSING WEIGHT, SHE LOST UP TO A THIRD OF HER BODY WEIGHT JUST TRYING TO BREATH,
AND IT WAS A TREMENDOUS TIME OF PAIN AND GREAT WEEPING. BUT AT THE TIME I DIDN’T BELIEVE IN GOD, I WAS AN ATHEIST AND I THOUGHT, GOD I CAN’T PRAY TO YOU NOW, I CAN’T BE A HYPOCRITE, I DON’T BELIEVE IN YOU.
SO I JUST CRIED THAT WAS ALL I COULD DO AND ONE DAY THE DOCTOR CAME IN, TWO DOCTORS, WE WERE IN A CHILDREN’S SPECIALISTS’ HOSPITAL, AND THEY CAME AND SAT ON THE SIDE OF MY BED AND THEY SAID, “PREPARE, YOUR DAUGHTER IS NOT GOING TO MAKE IT.”
AND I REMEMBER SUCH A, KIND OF A COLD STONE FEELING, I THOUGHT GOD THERE IS NO HOPE WITHIN. AND LIKE I SAID I NEVER REALLY PRAYED BECAUSE I STILL DIDN’T BELIEVE, BUT GOD IN HIS GREAT MERCY HE VISITED THAT HOSPITAL. AND WE FELT JUST AN AMAZING ATMOSPHERE,
A SHIFT IN THE ATMOSPHERE LIKE ENERGY AND STRENGTH AND GREAT LOVE, AND SHE WAS TOTALLY HEALED. AND SHE LEFT THE HOSPITAL WITHIN A WEEK. WHAT WAS THE PROGNOSIS OF THE DOCTOR’S BEFORE SHE WAS HEALED, DID THEY THINK SHE WOULD MAKE IT? NO, THEY CAME TO MY BEDSIDE AND THEY SAID YOUR
DAUGHTER WILL NOT LIVE AND JUST PREPARE YOURSELF FOR HER DEATH, THEY SAID WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE CAN DO AND SHE IS JUST TRYING TO BREATHE AND IT IS EMACIATING HER BODY AND SHE IS WITHERING AWAY JUST TRYING TO GET A BREATH. WHEN SHE WAS JUST AN INFANT YOU SAW AN ANGELIC
VISITATION, TELL ME ABOUT THAT. YES, AT THAT TIME IN MY LIFE I WAS VERY DISHEVELED AND BROKEN IN EVERY WAY, COME FROM A VERY DARK, ABUSIVE FAMILY, AND I WAS JUST REALLY CRYING OUT TO GOD, I SAID GOD I DON’T KNOW HOW TO RAISE A CHILD,
I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT I COULD DO, I FEEL SO OVERWHELMED AND I FEEL SO UNDERNEATH THE SITUATION AND AS I, HER CRIB WAS IN OUR BEDROOM AND I FELT THE AIR BECAME ELECTRIFIED AND RAREFIED, AND I FELT LIKE MYRIAD WINGED CREATURES IN THE
AIR AND I LOOKED OVER AND IT LOOKED LIKE KIND OF THE MILKY WAY, THEY WERE JUST LITTLE FLASHES OF LIGHT AND I FELT THE WINGS OF THE ANGLES LIKE MINISTERING TO HER IN HER CRIB AND IT WAS JUST LIKE THE LORD SAID I AM GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS,
I AM GOING TO CAUSE YOU TO BE ABLE TO BE THE MOTHER, I AM GOING TO CAUSE YOU TO KNOW HOW TO RAISE THIS CHILD, JUST SUPERNATURALLY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IS SO FASCINATING IS GRACE, WHEN YOU WERE SEVEN YOU HAD A VISION, A VISITATION; TELL ME ABOUT THAT.
I DID AND IT WAS REALLY A DESTINY VISION, AND I SAW MY MUSIC LITERALLY ENCIRCLING THE EARTH AND KEYBOARD NOTES AND PIANO LITERALLY CIRCLING AROUND THE WORLD, AND AT THAT MOMENT I WAS LIKE THIS IS WHAT I AM CALLED TO DO, THIS IS WHAT THE LORD HAS CALLED ME TO DO,
TO COVER THE EARTH WITH HIS GLORY AND TO RELEASE THAT SOUND OF HEAVEN. IT REALLY IS A SOUND OF HEAVEN; IN FACT YOU TOLD ME THAT EVERY SONG THAT GOD GIVES YOU COMES FROM HEAVEN. YES, I AM JUST AN INTERPRETER, I JUST SAY JESUS FLOW THROUGH ME,
LET YOUR SONGS BE SUNG, YOU KNOW IT TALKS ABOUT THAT IN HIS WORD, THAT HE SINGS OVER US SONGS OF DELIVERANCE, SONGS OF HEALING, AND THAT IS BASICALLY, I AM A CONDUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, SAYING HOLY SPIRIT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SING OVER YOUR PEOPLE?
YOU KNOW I INTERVIEWED A MAN BY THE NAME OF GARY WOOD WHO DIED AND WENT TO HEAVEN AND A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL STORY BUT THIS IS WHAT HE SAID AND IT WAS SO AMAZING AND IT HAS NEVER LEFT ME GRACE, HE SAID THAT HE HEARD SONGS IN HEAVEN AND
THEN MAYBE A DECADE LATER ON EARTH THE SONGS WOULD BE RELEASED, THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON WITH YOU. YES, THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS TO ME AND IT IS GETTING EVEN GREATER, I WAS IN A SERVICE ON FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE LORD POURED OUT A PROPHETIC SONG AND
IT WAS SIMPLY HE IS HOLY, HE IS WORTH, HE IS MIGHTY AND DURING THE SERVICE I WAS MINISTERING AND WE HAD A PROPHET IN TOWN AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE SAW AN ANGLE STANDING BEHIND ME DECLARING THE LORD IS HOLY, THE LORD IS MIGHTY, THE LORD IS WORTHY,
LITERALLY AS I WAS SINGING THIS FORTH AND THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE AFTER THE SERVICE THAT SAID THEY LOOKED UP AND SAW WARRING ANGELS IN THE ATMOSPHERE, IT WAS MIGHTY, MIGHTY AND THAT SONG WILL BE ON MY NEXT CD, I MEAN I AM JUST BIRTHING WHATEVER GOD IS SAYING, BLESS THE LORD.
LISTEN, I WANT YOU TO EXPERIENCE THIS SUPERNATURAL PEACE, BECAUSE GRACE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT IS GOING TO [MUSIC♪] PLAY “NEVER LET ME GO.” HE WILL NEVER LET YOU GO, BE BACK IN A MOMENT. [MUSIC♪] WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK TO, “IT’S SUPERNATURAL.” [MUSIC♪] WE NOW RETURN TO, “IT’S SUPERNATURAL.”
I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW THIS SONG CAME ABOUT, I BELIEVE THIS IS A MELODY FROM HEAVEN, IT IS GOING TO RELEASE COMFORT INTO THE EARTH, AND ONE NIGHT I WAS UP LATE AND I HAD JUST BEEN THROUGH A REAL DESERT SEASON IN MY LIFE PERSONALLY.
I WAS CRYING OUT TO GOD, AND I WAS IN PRAYER, AND I SAID, “JESUS,” AND I FELT THIS OVERWHELMING PRESENCE COME INTO MY STUDIO, AND I STARTED WEEPING AND AS I SENSED THIS HOLY PRESENCE AND I LITERALLY FELT JESUS, HIS ARMS EMBRACED ME AND HELD ME FOR SEVERAL HOURS
AND I SAID JESUS DON’T EVER LET GO, IT IS SUCH A SAFE PLACE, IT IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, A PLACE OF COMFORT, AND PEACE AND AMAZING LOVE, AND GOD POURED OUR HIS AMAZING LOVE TO ME IN THAT MOMENT AND I WENT OVER TO THE KEYBOARD AND I
BEGAN TO WRITE THIS SONG AND FLOW. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PRESENCE OF HEAVEN IS COMING TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND HIS AMAZING LOVE IS GOING TO HOLD YOU IN THAT BEAUTIFUL PLACE. [KEYBOARD MUSIC♪] [♪GRACE SINGING] HOLD ME IN YOUR ARMS LORD LET ME FEEL YOUR LOVE
♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ WRAP ME IN YOUR ARMS LORD I FEEL YOUR WARM EMBRACE ♪ ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ BEING IN YOUR ARMS IS LIKE DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ BEING IN YOUR ARMS IS LIKE
A DREAM ♪ CAN’T BELIEVE IT’S FOR ETERNITY ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ HOLD ME IN YOUR ARMS LORD LET ME FEEL YOUR LOVE ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪
WRAP ME IN YOUR ARMS LORD I FEEL YOUR WARM EMBRACE ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ I FEEL CLOUDED BY YOUR MYSTERY ♪ SOMEDAY I’LL KNOW YOUR LOVE FOR ME ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪
DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ ♪
[INSTRUMENTAL ♪] [FOR OUR CAPTION READING FRIENDS PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO THE SPEAKER OF YOUR T.V. AND FEEL THE VIBRATIONS OF THE MUSIC, AND LET MESSIAH HEAL YOU AND TOUCH YOUR SPIRIT!] JUST SEE THE LORD HOLDING YOU RIGHT NOW ♪ IN HIS
EVERLASTING ARMS OF LOVE ♪ ♪ HE IS HOLDING YOU RIGHT EVERLASTING ARMS OF LOVE ♪ ♪ HE IS HOLDING YOU RIGHT NOW ♪ TOUCHING YOU RIGHT NOW ♪ EMBRACING YOU RIGHT NOW ♪ HE IS HOLDING YOU RIGHT NOW ♪
IN HIS ARMS OF LOVE ♪ ARMS OF LOVE ♪ LET HIM HOLD YOU IN HIS ARMS ♪ THERE IS SAFETY IN HIS ARMS ♪ THERE IS MERCY THERE IS GRACE ♪ THERE IS SAFETY IN THIS PLACE ♪ ♪ HIS EVERLASTING LOVE HIS
MIGHTY ARMS OF LOVE ♪ HE WILL NEVER LET YOU GO ♪ HE WILL NEVER LET YOU GO NO, NO, NO. ♪ HE WILL NEVER LET YOU GO NO, NO, NO ♪ HE IS HOLDING YOU IN HIS ARMS,
♪ HIS MIGHTY ARMS OF LOVE ♪ YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE ALONE ♪ YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE AFRAID ♪ YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE ALONE ♪ HOLD ME IN YOUR ARMS LORD ♪ LET ME FEEL YOUR LOVE ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪
WRAP ME IN YOUR ARMS LORD ♪ I FEEL YOUR WARM EMBRACE ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO ♪ ♪ DON’T EVER LET GO [MUSIC♪] WE NOW RETURN TO, “IT’S SUPERNATURAL.” HELLO, SID ROTH HERE WITH GRACE WILLIAMS.
WELL WAS I RIGHT, DID THAT PEACE JUST TOTALLY INVADE YOUR PRESENCE? I TELL YOU ALMOST EVERY DAY I AM LISTENING TO THIS CD AND THE PHYSICAL MIRACLES THAT ARE HAPPENING. THERE ARE PLACES, THEY CALL THEM HEALING ROOMS AND THEY PLAY THIS AND THE ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN COMES IN AND MAJOR HEALINGS ARE HAPPENING,
TELL ME ABOUT THAT WOMAN THAT WAS SO FEARFUL. SHE HAD WHAT IS CALLED AGORAPHOBIA, AND IT IS BASICALLY WHERE YOU ARE CONFINED TO YOUR HOME, YOU CANNOT LEAVE THERE IS SUCH FEAR AND PANIC ATTACKS, SHE HAD CLOSED THE SHADES, SHE LITERALLY COULD NOT LEAVE HER HOUSE AND A
FRIEND GAVE HER THIS CD AND SHE PUT IT ON, BASICALLY LOCKED HERSELF AWAY FOR TWO DAYS LISTENING TO THIS CD NONSTOP, WAS COMPLETELY SET FREE, SHE NOW GOES OUT OF THE HOUSE SHOPPING, SHE IS A NEW WOMAN THAT GOD HAS SET HER FREE FROM EVERY SPIRIT OF FEAR AND EVERYTHING.
SOME AMAZING SUPERNATURAL THINGS ARE HAPPENING WHEN PEOPLE LISTEN TO THIS MUSIC; TELL ME ABOUT THAT PERSON WHO HAD THE AROMA OF HEAVEN. YES THEY WERE IN A SERVICE I GUESS AND THEY WERE PLAYING MY CD AS LIKE SOAKING MUSIC AND JUST WORSHIPPING BEFORE THE LORD, PEOPLE WERE LAID OUT, PEOPLE WERE JUST RECEIVING
DEEP INNER HEALING TYPE OF MINISTRY AND SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY LITERALLY SMELLED THE FRAGRANCE OF THE LORD COME DOWN THE MIDDLE AISLE AND JUST LINGER AT THE ALTAR WHERE PEOPLE WERE RECEIVING MINISTRY, AND A LADY EMAILED ME AND SAID I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT THIS CD IS DOING,
IT IS CHANGING PEOPLE’S LIVES, WE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME, AND SHE SAID THEY ARE ADDICTED TO IT. THEY CAN’T STOP PLAYING IT; IT IS PLAYING CONTINUALLY ACTUALLY IN THEIR PRAYER ROOM. WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT CHURCH IN ALABAMA YOU WERE AT? THEY HAVE AN AWESOME MINISTRY TO RECOVERING ADDICTS, PROSTITUTES,
DRUG ADDICTS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEY USE IT AS A TOOL FOR MINISTRY AND PEOPLE WERE GETTING TOTALLY COMPLETELY SET FREE, CHAINS BREAKING, THINGS THEY HAD DEALT WITH FOR LOTS OF YEARS, A LOT OF WOMEN. PEOPLE HAVE HAD DELIVERANCE FROM YOUR MUSIC? THEY PUT THIS MUSIC ON AND IMMEDIATELY YOU KNOW GOD
WILL SET THEM FREE OF THINGS MAYBE THEY DIDN’T KNOW THEY HAD OR CHAINS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATING OVER THE YEARS, A LOT OF BROKEN HEARTS MENDED AND DEEP SOUL WOUNDS THAT ONLY THE HOLY SPIRIT COULD SUPERNATURALLY TOUCH THAT AND SET THEM FREE. WHEN YOU MINISTERED AT THAT ALABAMA CHURCH WHAT HAPPENED?
WELL IT WAS MIGHTY, WE HAD PEOPLE JUST FILLING THE ALTARS IN WORSHIP CRYING, I MEAN PEOPLE WERE LAID OUT ON THE FLOOR SAYING I FELT LIKE I WAS LITERALLY IN HEAVEN, I WAS IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD AND PEOPLE WERE SEEING ANGELS AND HEARING, I HAVE EVEN HAD PEOPLE SAY I HEAR
ANGELS, SINGING, THAT HAS TO BE THE LORD. YOU KNOW I FEEL SUCH AN ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN IN THIS STUDIO NOW, IT JUST KIND OF FLOODED IN. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEVE OCCURS WHEN HER MUSIC IS SUNG OR PLAYED IS IT MAKES YOUR AREA A DEMON
FREE ZONE, I GUESS THAT’S WHY PEOPLE SLEEP SO WELL. YES AND THEY PLAY IT IN THEIR CARS, I HAVE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE EMAIL ME AND SAY YOUR CD IS PLAYING 24 HOURS A DAY IN OUR HOME AND OUR CHILDREN’S ROOM BECAUSE LIKE EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID
IT KEEPS THE ATMOSPHERE CLEAR AND FREE AND IT CREATES THAT OPEN HEAVEN SO IT IS EASY TO BREAK THROUGH INTO THAT SECRET PLACE OF WORSHIP. GRACE YOU HAVE AN UNUSUAL ANCESTRY. LET’S SEE IF I GET THIS RIGHT, YOUR GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT GRANDFATHER, PEOPLE SAID THAT WHEN HE WOULD SPEAK GOD’S WORD,
RATHER THAN ME SAY IT, WHAT DID THEY SAY ABOUT HIM? WELL HE WAS AN AMAZING MAN AND IT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT HIM THAT HE LITERALLY CARRIED THE FIRE OF GOD AND PEOPLE WOULD SEE BURNING FLAMES IN HIS EYES AND HE PRAYED IN SOME OF HIS JOURNALS THAT HIS
SEED AND HIS CHILDREN’S CHILDREN CHILDREN WOULD CARRY THIS FIRE AND WOULD CARRY THE MANTEL AND IT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT HOW HE WOULD LITERALLY GLOW IN THE PULPIT AND SO I KNOW THAT WHAT HE PRAYED I AM WALKING IN THAT, THE GENERATIONAL BLESSING THAT
I AM WALKING IN AND I AM SEEING HIS PRAYERS COME TO PASS, IT IS AWESOME HE WAS LIKE A CIRCUIT RIDER PREACHER, EVANGELIST, HE WAS MOVING IN SIGNS AND WONDERS IN A TIME WHEN THAT WAS VERY, VERY UNHEARD OF. NOW PEOPLE SAY THIS ABOUT YOU,
TELL ME THAT LAST PERSON THAT SAID I SEE FIRE IN YOUR EYES. WELL I WAS AT AN AZUSA MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WE WERE CELEBRATING THE AZUSA EVENT AND I WAS WORSHIPPING AND PEOPLE WERE JUST GETTING SO BLESSED AND A LADY CAME UP
TO ME AFTERWARDS AND SHE GRABBED MY HAND AND SHE SAID I HAVE ALL YOUR CD’S, SHE SAID I AM SO GLAD TO KNOW YOU, AND SHE LOOKED IN MY EYES AND SHE SAID I SEE THE FIRE OF THE LORD IN YOUR EYES AND SHE SAID I SEE HIS BURNING LOVE.
THERE IS SUCH A PRESENCE OF GOD THAT I BELIEVE IN THIS ATMOSPHERE ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE, I AM GOING TO ASK GRACE TO SING WITHOUT ANY MUSIC BUT JUST SING AS THE SPIRIT OF GOD TELLS HER WHAT TO SING, BUT I HAVE INSTRUCTIONS FOR YOU,
I GIVE ORDERS YOU KNOW, I DON’T KNOW IF YOU HAVE NOTICED OR NOT, I GIVE ORDERS, I ORDER YOU TO OPEN YOURSELF UP TO LOVE, NOW THAT IS NOT A TOUGH ASSIGNMENT, OPEN YOURSELF UP TO HEALING, OPEN YOURSELF UP TO THE MIRACULOUS, OPEN YOURSELF UP TO, YOU THAT ARE WEAK,
SUPERNATURAL STRENGTH, GRACE WOULD YOU SING. I SENSE THE LORD IS HEALING A WOMAN RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE HAD, IT IS LIKE WHAT I AM GETTING IS LIKE A CHRONIC BROKEN HEART, YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH TRAUMA AFTER TRAUMA AFTER TRAUMA AND YOU HAVE BEEN EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE SUICIDAL RIGHT
NOW, AND YOU ARE WANTING TO TAKE YOUR LIFE, YOU ARE JUST WANTING TO END IT BECAUSE YOU CAN’T TAKE IT ANY MORE. AND RIGHT NOW GOD SAYS THAT IT IS NOT OVER, IT IS NOT OVER, HE IS FILLING YOU RIGHT NOW WITH HOPE FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE, JUST REACH OUT TO HIM
RIGHT NOW AND RECEIVE THAT, RECEIVE THAT LOVE RECEIVE THAT HEALING AND RECEIVE THAT HOPE, THAT SPIRIT OF HOPE IS COMING TO YOU IT IS LIKE IT IS INFUSING YOUR SPIRIT RIGHT NOW. IN JESUS NAME BE FREE, BE FREE TO LIVE, BE FREE TO LIVE AND WE THANK YOU LORD. [GRACE SINGS♪]
♪ THE ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN IS IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW ♪ THE PRESENCE OF HEAVEN IS TOUCHING YOU RIGHT NOW ♪ IT’S HEALING YOU RIGHT NOW, RESTORING YOU RIGHT NOW, ♪ ♪ AND IT IS FRESH OIL, FLOWING FROM HEAVEN ♪ IT IS FRESH OIL FLOWING FROM
HEAVEN ♪ JUST RECEIVE THAT FRESH OIL RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU ARE, ♪ IT IS TOUCHING YOU, CHANGING YOU MAKING ALL THINGS NEW ♪ THE ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN IS HEALING YOU RIGHT NOW. ♪ RESTORING YOU RIGHT NOW, YES IT IS, JUST RECEIVE IT,
♪ RECEIVE IT, LIFT YOUR HANDS AND RECEIVE IT, RIGHT NOW, ♪ RECEIVE IT RIGHT NOW, RECEIVE IT RIGHT NOW. ♪ HALLELUJAH, THANK YOU GOD. IF YOU EVER EXPERIENCED THE LOVE OF GOD YOU WOULD SAY GOD NEVER LET GO, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS EARTH TO COMPARE WITH THE
LOVE OF GOD, YOU GET THE LOVE OF GOD BY A FREE GIFT FROM GOD, JESUS DIED IN YOUR PLACE, JUST SAY JESUS FORGIVE ME OF MY SINS, I BELIEVE YOU DIED IN MY PLACE, I MAKE YOU LORD OF MY LIFE, JESUS COME INSIDE OF ME, BE THE SHAR SHALOM,
THE PRINCE OF PEACE IN MY LIFE, AND JUST BASK IN THE ATMOSPHERE OF HEAVEN. JESUS, NEVER LET GO, JESUS NEVER EVER LET GO, [MUSIC♪] NEVER LET GO OF YOUR PEOPLE, NEVER.
